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Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

Posted on: September 16, 2011 6:56 pm
Edited on: September 16, 2011 7:06 pm
Turris1By: Adam Gretz

It's been reported that Phoenix Coyotes restricted free agent Kyle Turris wants somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 and $4 million dollars on his next contract. If you think that seems a bit excessive for a player that, in parts of three seasons in the NHL, has never recorded more than 25 points and has scored more than 10 goals just once, you're probably not wrong.

And there's a good chance Coyotes general manager Don Maloney agrees with you.

The 22-year-old Turris was not among the players to report for the opening of Coyotes training camp on Friday, and Maloney addressed the topic of his still unsigned restricted free agent.

Said Maloney, via the Coyotes website, "This is just so illogical, from our standpoint, the position he's taken. It makes absolutely no sense to me. I have no intention of trading him whatsoever, we still think he's a young developing player. But He's still developing. Once you're a proven 30 or 40-goal, 80-point guy, then yes you can get the brass ring, but until you get there you have to settle. Well, that's what makes America great, he doesn't have to settle, he can stay at home and, you know, watch Oprah."

Maloney also said that Turris believes in himself, which is a strength, and that he feels he can be a top player in this league. He also added that the Coyotes are not a developing team; they're ready to win right now.

The Coyotes selected Turris with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft, right after Patrick Kane and James vanRiemsdyk went to Chicago and Philadelphia respectively, and in 131 regular season games has scored just 19 goals and been credited with 27 assists. Of all the players that were selected in 2007, 11 of them have recorded more points in their career to this point, and only two of them (Kane and vanRiemsdyk) will make more than the $3-4 million Turris has reportedly been looking for. Players like Wayne Simmonds, Jakub Voracek, Brandon Sutter and David Perron, players that have all been way more productive than Turris to this point, will be making between $1.5 and $2.5 million on their current contracts.

It's one thing for a team to pay for potential when you're talking about a player like John Tavares or Tyler Myers, or even Drew Doughty, who remains unsigned in Los Angeles. With those players you're dealing with a person that has proven he can be a franchise player and should continue to grow into one of the top players in the league. You might "overpay" a bit in the short-term, but in the long-term it could prove to be a steal. With a player like Turris there's really no reason to believe that sort of development will take place as he's yet to prove that he's capable of being that type of player.

Maloney finished by saying that it's not a matter of the Coyotes not wanting to pay, but that the player has to show he can produce.

"You look at Keith Yandle, who had a terrific year, and we signed him to a lucrative contract. So it's not about not paying, but you have to perform before you get paid."

All salary figures via CapGeek

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 15, 2011 8:44 pm
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Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 5:34 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

It's probably a good thing for the Coyotes that Maloney doesnt know that Oprah has given up her show! He's concentrating on hockey! It's not a good thing, though, that a young, promising player is missing training camp in a season when the Coyotes really need a break-out season from him. I don't pretend to know what Turris is thinking, but as much as he might have a very inflated opinion of himself, he has certainly done nothing, outside of being drafted high, to earn remotely the amount of money he is reportedly looking for. He should look at the contracts just signed by Bogosian and Marchand and try to get a 2 year deal for $3 million. That's his range right now.
It makes me wonder if he has an issue with Tippett. Tippett is a two-way players coach. He demands accountability and Turris has not received the amount of playing time that one would think an offesnively struggling team like Phoenix would give him. That's because Tippett has proven if you play strong two way players, you dont need 20 goal scorers. One way guys like Mueller and Wolski have been ridden out of town by the Coyotes and I wonder if Turris is in the same boat, not impressing Tippett that he is willing to play hard at both ends of the ice. 
Turris would do well to learn from Tippett, improve his overall game and then look for his payday. 

Since: Feb 12, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 10:28 am

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

No way do you pay a player like turris that kind of money. There are way to many players that thought they could perform at the NHL level, re: alexandre daigle. Where the hell did turris get this number. Kane is worth all his money, theres no questioning that, JVR all be it a superior playoff run. This kid has all the tools to be a dominant force on the ice. What has turris done. I've watch some of the coyotes games and he's all but invisible. He may someday be 70+ point forward. Trade him to the islanders. they love to overpay players. I bet you could get a first and sec rd pic from the islanders.

Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: September 16, 2011 11:08 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

Turris can't sit back and watch Oprah at home anymore, how dare Maloney insituate a line.  He no longer even has that option!!!  Just give him his crazy contract Dan, having him watch Oprah when it has been over for months now.  The noive of this guy, doesn't even know what is going on in the tvs these days.

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: September 16, 2011 10:07 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

Poor guy still thinks his draft position carries more weight than it does, or maybe just his agent thinks that.   JVR's ridiculous contract and Couture's extension make a case for him to get more than he's worth.   Couture is a better player now, but with both being so young, Turris' party is probably banking on getting paid on projection now.   Besides that, the limited talent up front in PHX makes him a little more valuable than he otherwise would be.    He shouldn't see anything more than Voracek, but that doesn't mean he won't get 3.25 mil or more.   It's goofy, at Marchand and Schenn received more realistic contract extensions.    Turris needs to be careful at this point, he isn't polished enough to get all the ice time he (or his rep)  thinks he's entitled to.  Tippett doesn't play games.

Since: Oct 25, 2006
Posted on: September 16, 2011 9:29 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

This could be Turris's way of getting out of Pheonix. He hasn't been able to stay in the line-up or even crack the top two lines yet even when players are coming and going through Phoenix. They also seem to be having problems with their top picks not developing as quick as they like. Players like Turris, Boedker and Maclean aren't developed like they should be at this point. Maybe Turris is looking for a freash start somewhere else (like Grabner got with the isles) and is asking for money he probably knows he doesn't deserve.

Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: September 16, 2011 8:34 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

Forgot to add: players are eligible for arbitration after four years in the NHL. Turris has only played two years and two games of a third.

Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: September 16, 2011 8:31 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

If Turris were eligible for arbitration you would be absolutely correct, but he's not yet eligible for arbitration.

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: September 16, 2011 8:18 pm

Maloney talks about Kyle Turris situation

Isn't this where you go to arbitration?  Then, based on what you're saying (I didn't research it myself), the arbitrator awards Turris $1.5-2 million for one year; it's not likely he'll get much more if his output is as you say..., or am I talkin out of my ass?

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