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It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Posted on: November 10, 2011 1:28 pm
Edited on: November 10, 2011 2:59 pm
 
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By: Adam Gretz

The highest scoring team in the NHL (the Philadelphia Flyers) played a Tampa Bay Lightning team on Wednesday night that featured the most prolific goal-scorer in the league over the past two seasons (Steven Stamkos) and a former MVP (Martin St. Louis). That should result in an exciting game with a lot of goals, scoring chances and back-and-forth play, right? Wrong.

The highlight (or lowlight) of the night, as well as the biggest talking point in the NHL on Thursday morning, is how the game, which Tampa Bay won in overtime, 2-1, had all the excitement of paint drying due to the Lightning's commitment to its 1-3-1 system, and the Flyers' unwillingness to attack it.

If you haven't already seen it, multiple times throughout the game, especially during the first period, the Flyers' defensemen, including Chris Pronger and Braydon Coburn, refused to skate the puck out of their own zone and waited for the Lightning's forecheckers to make the first move.

When that didn't happen, the result was a stalemate unlike any other

And this was a game that was played on national television. That can not be what the NHL wants, and most of the negative reaction has been directed at the Lightning and coach Guy Boucher for playing such a style of hockey.

Versus analyst Mike Milbury, for example, left the set during the second intermission of Wednesday's game in "protest" (though, his night was probably over at that point anyway), while the discussion of whether or not the NHL needs to implement some form of "shot clock" to prevent a team from not advancing the puck the way Philadelphia did has been kicked off.


Depending on your rooting interest you probably have a different idea as to who the winners and losers were in this game. If you're a Lightning fan you're probably happy (and rightfully so) because your team won the game. Flyers fans -- and the Flyers themselves -- seem to be taking great pride in the fact that they embarrassed the Lightning by essentially calling out their style of play and shining some light on how boring the neutral zone trap is (though, we didn't need the Flyers to prove that to us -- we knew that based on watching hockey between 1995 and 2005).

Take, for example, the words of Pronger, via Tim Panaccio of CSNPhilly:
“Would you pay money to see that? I wouldn’t either and that was a [VERSUS] TV game, too. Way to showcase the product. Look at the players they got over there.
 
“That’s not my job. Maybe Shanny [Brendan Shanahan] should take charge of that, too. I don’t know.
 
“That is the way they play there all the time, whether it’s us or anybody. If they get down, they go into a two-man forecheck. We were just waiting for them to come in. Force them out of their forecheck or whatever that was. They weren’t forchecking. Their stance, I guess.
 
“That was their game right there. We were making them look bad. That’s not hockey in my book, but whatever. The league is letting them do it.”
Of course the league is "letting them do it," because there's nothing in the rule book that says a team can't play a certain type of defensive system. And as far as the "making them look bad" is concerned, it should again be pointed out that Tampa Bay did, in fact, win the hockey game, which is still the ultimate goal.

Tampa Bay doesn't pride itself on winning games in style, because if it did, it wouldn't be playing the 1-3-1 to begin with. So it's doubtful the Lightning are going to apologize for the boring manner in which they win games. And they aren't.

"We're sticking to the game plan," said Boucher, via the St. Pete Times. "When we have the puck we're aggressive with it, and when we don't have the puck we dedicate ourselves to being above the puck instead of chasing from behind. It tells me guys are buying in."

Sabres coach Lindy Ruff chimed in on Thursday and according to John Vogl condoned Tampa Bay's style of play, but did add that there has to be an obligation to try and get the puck if the other team has it.

There also has to be an obligation for the team with the puck to move it.

As a hockey fan, of course I would prefer to see a more offensive game that highlights the skill of the players on the ice, so I can't say that I love the way Tampa Bay plays. I certainly respect it, and I respect the way players have obviously bought into Boucher's system, but it is boring. But I also don't want to see anything that would limit their ability to play that style of hockey or restrict a players' on-ice movements, such as the type of "illegal defense" rules the NBA has attempted over the years, mainly because I'm not sure how you enforce it, and also because the referees have enough to worry about without trying to identify what system a team is playing.

I don't blame the Lightning for what took place Wednesday night, and focussing on Tampa Bay seems to overlook the fact that just about every team in the NHL plays some variation of the trap -- it's just that the Lightning's is different from all the others. Still, when the Flyers have the puck the onus is on them to advance it, play the game, and figure out a way to exit their own zone, navigate through the neutral zone and enter the offensive zone. They chose not to do that.

And let's not act like the Lightning and their system, no matter how committed they are to it, are impossible to score against. Last season they allowed 155 goals during 5-on-5 play (when they would have been playing their system). Only 12 teams in the NHL allowed more. So far this season they've allowed 33 goals during 5-on-5 play, which is the fourth most in the NHL (only Ottawa, Carolina and Philadelphia have allowed more).

You can score against them. The only way you're guaranteed to not score against them is if you make no effort.

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Comments

Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:54 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Why should the onus be on the team in possesion of the puck to skate towards an opposing player.  The primary objective in hockey is to score more goals than the opposition.

Er, ... uh, Canuck77 ... you answered your own question with your very next sentence.



Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:50 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

... you really think different rules should apply to the Flyers than to everyone else?
I never said Bettman would single out the Flyers.

Think about it.

What's good for the game? It's the fastest team sport and it's much simpler to force a team to try to score -- the OBJECT of the game -- than it is to start outlawing "illegal defences".

I've read how the NBA had to legalize the zone defence 10 years ago to speed up the game and because it was too hard to define what an illegal defence was.

Why go down that road ... when it merely involves the ref telling the player -- as they already do when the puck is along the boards -- to move the puck?

Any trap can be beaten when you can fire the puck 100 mph and skate like the wind. The Flyers are gutless quitters.

They are no different than the Soviets who packed up their pucks and exited the Spectrum years ago when the going got tough.

My ... how times have changed.



Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:42 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

... next time they pull this garbage, someone should take a run at stamkos or st. louis's head.
We know THAT won't happen. It would mean Philly having to move the puck up ice ... and we've seen how uncreative and afraid they are about doing that.

Say, is Pronger's wife tired of living in Philly yet? ...



Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:34 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

... but for Tampa Bay fans to say this is completly Phillys fault is the most hypocritical BS I've seen on these boards in a long time.
Ahem ... you need only read your own post for more, ahem ... stench-filled hypocrisy ...

This team (the Flyers) can skate with anyone.
Uh ... so WHY didn't they move the puck?

Because they are quick of foot but SLOW OF MIND.

Somebody in Philly, schedule a team meeting. PLEASE.



Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2011 4:23 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Lets hope every time Philly doesnt like the style the other team is playing they decide to not pursue the puck.

World's fastest team sport ... and the Flyers don't like a zone defense.

Newsflash, Philly. The NBA LEGALIZED the zone defense 10 years ago to SPEED UP play!

Move the puck already.






Since: Jan 11, 2008
Posted on: November 12, 2011 3:01 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Philly's goal was to show up the system.  It obviously worked because it's still being talked about.  I thought the goal to playing a game was to try to win, however.





Since: Sep 3, 2009
Posted on: November 12, 2011 2:31 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

As far as Mike Milbury walking off the set, I wish he would stay off.

These sports networks hire losers such as he and Matt Millen, Guys who ran franchises into the ground with bad decision after bad decision and were suppossed to repect their commentary, Please'''''''''''' If Mike Milbury dosen't loke the 1-3-1 then keep using it because it works.

Do the opposite of what these losers recomend.

Just ask any Islander or Lions fan''''''''''''

Mike Milbury ran his sons pee wee hockey team into the ground, the only work he could find was on Versus.



Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: November 12, 2011 2:23 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

My, how times have changed!  The Philadelphia NHL team has gone from the Broad Street Bullies to the Philadelphia Criers.  I'm not sure if you can take your puck and go home in ice hockey like you can take your basketball home in hoops.  Holding the puck can be an effective strategy only if you can get the opponent to chase the puck. If not, you'll have to deal with it just like the neutral zone trap or left wing lock or any of the other derenses teams have employed to deal with high scoring offenses.  Just play the game and shut  yer yap!



Since: Sep 3, 2009
Posted on: November 12, 2011 2:22 pm
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

People are envious of Tampa's ability to play the 1-3-1.
Many years ago Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin came up with the Tampa 2 defense and everyone cried about it back then and now it's used by many teams.
Same for 1-3-1, its new and while may be alittle boring it seems to work.
Lighting were 1 goal away from Stanley Cup Finals last year and we all know they would of beaten Vancover.
Buc's were 1 pass away (Bert Emanual) from the Super Bowl in St. Louis that year under the Tampa 2.
Bottom line: People are envious of Tampa Sports because they have exciting inovative coaches and styles unlike other sports cities.
Joe Madden fits into this class as well.

Tampa has alot to be Thankful for over the years beginning with Tony D. and now Boucher.



Since: Apr 17, 2010
Posted on: November 12, 2011 11:37 am
 

It's a trap: Tampa Bay's system under attack

Almost every single team in the NHL plays the 1-3-1 and deploys the trap at some stage in a game
100% False.


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