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Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

Posted on: December 15, 2011 8:05 pm
Edited on: December 16, 2011 7:58 am
By: Adam Gretz

Word began to surface late Thursday afternoon that Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Chris Pronger was going to be out indefinitely due to his various ailments, including the concussion-type symptoms he was recently experiencing.

That wasn't really anything new, as he was already out of the lineup and the team had already announced that he would be indefinitely. But then Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren addressed the media Thursday evening, just after the team faced off against the Montreal Canadiens, and dropped the bombshell that the veteran defenseman will be sidelined for the remainder of the season as well as the playoffs.

“After consultation with respected concussion specialists Dr. Joseph Maroon and Dr. Micky Collins," Holmgren said, "it is the opinion of both doctors that Chris is suffering from severe post-concussion syndrome. It is the recommendation of Doctors Maroon and Collins that Chris not return to play for the Philadelphia Flyers for the remainder of the 2011-12 season or playoffs.  Chris will continue to receive treatment and therapy with the hope that he can get better.”
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In 13 games this season Pronger scored one goal to go with 11 assists.

Concussions have been sweeping like wildfire across the NHL over the past couple of weeks, something the Flyers currently know all too well. Along with Pronger, they're also playing without forwards Claude Giroux and Brayden Schenn, both out with concussions.

Nobody seems to know for sure when Pronger suffered the concussion that has now ended his season, but he's had a lengthy list of injuries this season. Earlier in the year he was sidelined after taking a stick in the face, and was most recently out due to a procedure on his knee. It wasn't until after that procedure that we first heard about his concussion symptoms.

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Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 16, 2011 9:53 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

My issue was his contract which circumvented the spirit of the cap rules and got grandfathered. That's not his fault.
It did, but it wasn't nearly as bad as Marian Hossa's, or the attempt by the Devils with Kovalchuk.  Not even close to either one of those.  Those were so freaking blatant.  Pronger's contract gets more heat than it deserves, and I think a large part of the reason why it does is because it was signed in the same time period as Hossa's.

Pronger's is a bit more spaced out with the drops over two years, and has only 2 years of low salary.  Hossa has 4 years of low salary in an 11 year deal, Pronger has 2 in a 7 year deal.  Hossa makes the same 7.9mil for the first 6, then make 4, then1mil or less.  More  circumvent years, larger difference between salary high and low, a larger cap hit, and a longer deal. 

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 16, 2011 9:37 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

Argueably up ther ewith the Rangers, Boston, and Chicago, but not up there with Detroit, Montreal, and Toronto.  Philly is a Football town #1, and then baseball, and then hockey, and when you look at Detroit, Montreal and Toronto it is hockey #1 all the time.
Philly is just a sports town, and their following in each sport is among the tops.  Look at the MLS.  The Union have created a huge fanbase (by NA soccer standards) in just 2 years.  It might have a little something to do with the Kixx and their titles, but the Union had a large fanbase before they even had a season to play.

The lacrosse teams in town, by American lacrosse standards, also have a big following.  They've also won a lot too.

Is football #1 in town?  Well duh, that's easy to say because football is #1 in the USA.  Some cities might have more love for a baseball team (St. Louis, Boston, NY maybe?), but football is easily the #1 sport in the country.  Only makes sense that in an all-around sports town that Philly is, that it would be #1 as well.  Before football became #1 though in the early 90's, baseball was #1.

Though, take all their teams and which team has the most dedicated and loyal fans?  It's the Orange and the Black.  Football sells out because it's easy to be a casual fan.  Hockey though is much harder, and the Flyers have had one of the strongest fanbases once the city learned about hockey a couple years after the Flyers became a franchise.  It was similar Pittsburgh, but they learned about hockey a little later (2004).

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: December 16, 2011 9:29 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

Based on what?  I would be that the following teams have a larger fan base (although maybe not in this order):
1)  Detroit
2)  Chicago
3)  NY Rangers
4)  Toronto
5)  Montreal
6)  Boston

I haven't even considered the international teams, but I would guess more than a few of them.
Oof those "international teams", how many of them have international appeal?  Do you follow any KHL teams?  How about the PHL?  Any of those teams attact you, or anybody that lives in North America (with the exception of immigrants who came from those areas)? 

The Flyers actually do have international appeal.  Go anywhere in the world where there is a hockey presence, and you'll find Flyers fans. 

As luckyluke said "1975...1975"...yadda yadda yadda.  Those years are responsible for the international appeal that they have, and also a big reason why the NHL has any international following. 

I would say the Original 6, most of them, have a larger market base except for Boston.  I remember when CBS used to post the number of fans each team had, and the Flyers were in the Top3-4 on this site, usually going back and forth with NY, and were only behind the Habs and Wings.

Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: December 16, 2011 7:48 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

concussion-type symptoms?..not even a concussion! sports leagues have gone way overboard with this concussion nonsense. getting bumped in the dome happens. it's part of sports.

Since: Nov 3, 2011
Posted on: December 16, 2011 7:29 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

That is a big loss for the Flyers. Like him or  not, Pronger always elevates the play of his team.

Since: Jun 30, 2011
Posted on: December 16, 2011 4:12 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

I feel bad for Pronger, Giroux and their families for sure. I wish them quick recoveries and no life long symptoms. As for the flyers fans who continuously act like morons in their mindless attacks on can start jumping from the bridges now. You don't have to wait until the playoffs this year.

Since: Sep 12, 2007
Posted on: December 16, 2011 4:08 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

I often read lots of really stupid remarks in these pages.  Personally, I hate the guy because he is on the other team... but, I wish him the best and a speedy recovery to full health.

Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: December 16, 2011 3:29 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

I wonder which head hit was the most damaging concussion.   He has some rough mileage.    Great player even greater d-bag but I wish he was a Hawk most of his career and I hope he doesn't have to retire like this.   

Like another poster mentioned earlier, I think something is really wrong with him and it scared the heck out of him enough to shut it down with so many months left.   

Holmgren is already operating over the cap, LTIR relief is going to eat PHI's cap for next year if they get a quick replacement, so I don't think the decision has anything to do with Holmgren or the Flyer front office because there is little to no strategic or business advantage to announcing that he's done for the year.    There isn't much sense to suggest that this was a decision made or influenced by anybody except Pronger and his doctors.    That's why I'm worried for his career.    He hasn't been one to not want to be on the ice.

Since: Jan 10, 2011
Posted on: December 16, 2011 2:00 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

Im a fellow Rangers' fan man and I know its annoying to watch Crosby whine sometimes, but hes still the best player in the World.  He defenitely gives off that lil wiesel personality sometimes, but we really don't have anything tangible against the positives he brings to hockey. Its just seems like us whining about him whining is getting just as bad.  The guys simply the best and no1s better.  The discussion should be focused on how ridiculous the league is. Its a shame that all of these players are out with concussions (our Staal), but it also means that its a problem being finally being diagnosed now.  If we are seeing this many concussions now with all the current rule protections, just think about how many there really was a few years ago before the league got its shit together.  Just sad...

Since: Aug 2, 2011
Posted on: December 16, 2011 1:23 pm

Chris Pronger done for season, playoffs

This is unfortunate for Pronger however believe after he got the first time, definitely trhe second he should have been taken for check ups. I also believe, the Ducks goalie, Hiller may be suffering the same and has not comeback the same player.

Health comes first above all else and I'm sure his teammates have  said the exact same thing

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