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Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

Posted on: January 27, 2012 5:43 pm
Edited on: January 27, 2012 5:50 pm
 
SuterBy: Adam Gretz

The most difficult job in the NHL leading up to the trade deadline has to belong to Nashville Predators general manager David Poile. He has to decide what to do with one of his franchise players, defenseman Ryan Suter, an unrestricted free agent on July 1. He can either hold on to him, make a serious playoff run and hope he can be re-signed before hitting the open market, or he can trade him to the highest bidder to guarantee that he isn't lost for nothing. Suter's words on Friday during his media availability probably didn't help things as he said he doesn't intend to sign a new long-term contract extension before the trade deadline, in part because he wants to see what the Predators do as an organization, and also because, as he put it, he doesn't want to be a "distraction," according to ESPN's Pierre LeBrun.

This can't be encouraging news for Predators fans (of all ages).

It's unclear how actually signing a contract would be a distraction for the Predators (the contracts talks themselves might be a distraction. The rumors are a distraction, I imagine), but this is no small decision for Poile and the Predators front office.

Suter, along with his blueline partner Shea Weber, an unrestricted free agent himself after next season, is one of the Predators' top-two defensemen, and arguably their best all-around player. If he hits the open market after this season he's going to be the most sought after player available in an otherwise weak free agent class. Not only because he's a No. 1 defenseman and a franchise-type player, but also because he's still only 27 years old. Players that good, at that position, in the prime of their career, don't become available to the highest bidder all that often, and there's going to be no shortage of teams looking to throw large sums of money in his direction.

If the Predators were out of the playoff race this wouldn't be that difficult. If you're a bottom-feeder and confident that he isn't going to re-sign, you put him on the market and trade him for the biggest return you can get.

But that's not the case for Nashville. The Predators are very much in the playoff race, entering the All-Star break holding the No. 5 seed in the Western Conference with 64 points, just one point out of what would be home-ice advantage in the first round of the postseason.

Making any sort of a postseason push without Suter isn't likely (it certainly decreases their chances). But he's also too valuable of a player to risk losing for nothing, even though the Predators have some impressive blue line depth coming up through their organization (such as Ryan Ellis, Roman Josi, Jonathan Blum), as they always seem to do.

This Predators team has been built entirely around the trio of Suter, Weber and goaltender Pekka Rinne. All three entered this season eligible to become unrestricted free agents over the next two years. The team already managed to lock up Rinne, signing him to a massive seven-year contract earlier this season, leaving Weber and Suter as unknowns.

Poile has been one of the NHL's better general managers during his run in Nashville, consistently putting a playoff caliber team on the ice with one of the league's lowest payrolls, mainly through a steady pipeline of talent through his minor league system. The same one that's produced players like Suter, Weber and Rinne.

This is going to be his biggest test (and decision) of his career.

Photo: Getty Images

Previously at Eye On Hockey

Predators sign Pekka Rinne for seven years
Toddler's message to Suter: please sign

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Comments

Since: Feb 15, 2008
Posted on: January 31, 2012 1:23 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

Please do- i like him too much to begin hating him just yet
 Please DONT- sheesh- you would think southern edumacation would kick in any day now...



Since: Feb 15, 2008
Posted on: January 31, 2012 1:05 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

LOL   I already have Suter wearing a Wings uniform......  I better slow down...


Please do- i like him too much to begin hating him just yet... Wink


Whadya think- Suter for Holmstrom plus a second rounder???

Man crush on Thomas Holstrom, right here... Scott Hartnell was our only version with promis and we traded him for a washed up Forsberg. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2012 10:48 am
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

So tough to predict the market.    I think Suter gets Doughty money+ and Holland will definately be interested.

I agree, Suter probably will get Doughty money + .....  the more I think about this here's the thing I struggle with.   As a Wings fan I'm not interested at all in a 40 point dman with a good overall game for that kind of money.  BUT, I'm very interested in a 60 point dman with a good overall game and at that point the money doesn't matter.  I think Suter on a different team could be that guy, but there is some risk because if his numbers don't increase considerably playing in Detroit in my opinion he would be overpaid. 

LOL   I already have Suter wearing a Wings uniform......  I better slow down...

I think Suter stays a Predator with Weber unless they miss the playoffs, I consider that unlikely too.

That's a very interesting prediction because for Suter and Weber to sign long term with the Preds that means they'll finally be willing to max out, spend a lot more money then they do now.  Rinne is already signed, so on paper it makes sense if the Preds can afford to keep all 3 yet still surround them with players that can help them compete for a cup.  

I have to admit I know very little about how well or how terrible individual NHL teams are doing these days.....
 



Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:38 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

That being said I did point out that Detroit would have to severely overpay to make that trade and that Holland isn't likely to do it.
I agreed with you , and I was pretty much going along with the same line of thought about Suter and the possibility of him being a Wing.
what if Suter became available as an UFA?  If you were Kenny Holland, would you be interested?  And if so, what would your maximum contract offer be?  Finally, what do you think Suter is going to sign for ?
So tough to predict the market.    I think Suter gets Doughty money+ and Holland will definately be interested.    
The way some of the young teams are constructed right now, they don't have to worry about a giant cap hit hurting them the next two years.    I think Holmgren, Tambellini, Feaster, Fletcher, Cheveldayoff, Yzerman, Stewart, Holland, and the soon to be named gm in Montreal would be my frontrunners if I were to guess.

I think Suter stays a Predator with Weber unless they miss the playoffs, I consider that unlikely too.






Since: Feb 15, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:34 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

I think some of you make some nice points why or why not Suter would be a good or bad fit for your organization. I think it boils down to what Nashville wants to do.

I couldnt have been more surprised about the Pekka Rinne contract if I woke up tomorrow AM with my head sown to the carpet. (ok, i stole that line...). Truht be told, in any other year, you all have very valid contract and pay points.

This year, i am not so sure. I think he doesnt want a long term contract until the Preds(or anyone lese) can show him the blueprint for success; i.e. who are you going after on the road to the SC. Rinne was one aspect, Shea Weber is another.

Nashville has a very nice TEAM this year, and a super star for Suter might mess up the mojo they have going. It will get done- Suter will be in Nashville for several more years as well as Shea Weber for 3 reasons:
  1. Nashville will spend very close to the cap (no, i am not high)
  2. Kelly Pickler
  3. Faith Hill
Need i say more?

Locally, the scutlebutt is that the Preds will spend to the cap, so that will eliminate the "Frugal" tag. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:45 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

I don't think Poile is going to trade Suter to a team likely to be in his division or conference without gross overpayment.    This isn't like when the Wings traded for Chelios and then they could spend money to round out the 23 man roster either.    Suter is going to cost more prospects and picks than he's worth and the trade may actually make them less likely to win the cup after he's compensated and the prospects given away.   

I think Holland picking up Suter would do more harm than good looking out a year from now.   Detroit's system isn't turning out as strong or as deep as it was thought to be 18 months ago, giving up two of the upper prospects from that system is going to sting quite a bit.    Because of the amount of money so many comparable d-men are making, Suter is going to take on a massive cap hit too.

As a Hawk fan, I would love for Holland to pick up Suter.

Hockeybob, nice post.  I agree with what you're saying, you make a lot of sense.  That being said I did point out that Detroit would have to severely overpay to make that trade and that Holland isn't likely to do it.

BUT.... what if Suter became available as an UFA?  If you were Kenny Holland, would you be interested?  And if so, what would your maximum contract offer be?  Finally, what do you think Suter is going to sign for ?

Curious to read what you have to say.... 



Since: Jul 1, 2010
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:12 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

I'm not sure Kenny can pull that trade off, at least not without getting ripped off in a trade.BUT, why would the Preds who are very likely going to get multiple offers for Suter not trade him to an eastern conference team?  Why the Wings who are in their division and only 3 points back this far into the season?
2 points I was going to make.

I don't think Poile is going to trade Suter to a team likely to be in his division or conference without gross overpayment.    This isn't like when the Wings traded for Chelios and then they could spend money to round out the 23 man roster either.    Suter is going to cost more prospects and picks than he's worth and the trade may actually make them less likely to win the cup after he's compensated and the prospects given away.  

I think Holland picking up Suter would do more harm than good looking out a year from now.   Detroit's system isn't turning out as strong or as deep as it was thought to be 18 months ago, giving up two of the upper prospects from that system is going to sting quite a bit.    Because of the amount of money so many comparable d-men are making, Suter is going to take on a massive cap hit too.

As a Hawk fan, I would love for Holland to pick up Suter.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:02 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

I'd love to see Suter in Detroit, but I don't know if the Wings have enough decent talent to trade for him.

Wings have a ton of talent and prospects, draft picks, etc  to make it happen but that's not the real question.  The real question is would Kenny Holland allow  himself to get raped by a GM in the same division for a player that's not signed past this season and if not extended prior to July 1st is going to get massive offers from a few other teams?  

The more I think about it there is no way I can see it happening unless Suter is willing to sign an extension as or before the trade officially goes through.  Holland doesn't rent players like that... he'll rent players he can get for a 2nd round pick or low level minor league players, but he's not giving up anybody important or multiple first round picks for a guy that might bail on the Wings a few months later. 



Since: Feb 3, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 12:58 pm
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

Poile let Scott Stevens walk in Washington, and we know how that worked out...



Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:42 am
 

Suter doesn't plan to sign before trade deadline

I'd love to see Suter in Detroit, but I don't know if the Wings have enough decent talent to trade for him.


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