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Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Posted on: February 21, 2012 5:46 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2012 8:54 am
What Nash would look like in a Blueshirt.

By Brian Stubits

In the days leading up to the trade deadline (Monday, Feb. 27) we're going to keep tabs on the biggest name on the block, Columbus Blue Jackets star and captain Rick Nash.

The list of teams rumored to be in on Nash isn't incredibly long and it's the usual suspects that you'd expect to be in on a big-name, high-priced star like Nash. His wish list -- put into song so wonderfully -- was supposedly five teams long with possible Wild cards in the mix too.

We're going to take a look at each of the rumored wish-list teams and how Nash would fit, starting today with the New York Rangers.

From the moment the Jackets said they'd entertain offers for Nash, the Rangers jumped to the front of the pack as a favorite to land him. With a team on its way to its best season since winning the Cup almost two decades ago lacking just a little in the scoring department and a rich farm system, Broadway seems like an ideal situation.

But you're left wondering why. Why would the Rangers want to risk what they have going for them by bringing in Nash? They already have the best points percentage in the NHL, obviously they are doing something right.

It seems to me that you're flirting with disaster by mixing up the formula. That's especially the case if it requires losing some assets that are currently on the team, going beyond the prospects.

Usually this time of year everybody is enthralled with adding a star to their team, consequences be damned. The fans schmooze them on the Internet and in some cases Twitter, they serenade them with chants and creative signs when they visit. Then dismiss and even trash the player when they don't end up coming to their team. It's the way fandom goes these days.

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Not like this is the first time we've said this, but the Rangers fans are different. They had the chance to warm Nash to MSG this week. Instead of serenading him they pretty much insulted him, chanting "We don't want you!" throughout the game.

Now Rangers fans haven't always been the best at making personnel decisions for their team. They were advocating Sean Avery playing earlier this season. But in this case I think they're on to something.

Would the Rangers and their fans like to have Nash? Of course they would. But should they be willing to pay the price (both in terms of the trade return and the salary) to get Nash? The fans have made their side clear, the brass hasn't yet.

The decision becomes a lot easier for GM Glen Sather and crew if the Jackets are insistent on getting Michael Del Zotto in a deal. In his third year in the league, Del Zotto is growing into one very good defenseman for the Blueshirts. With seven goals and 25 assists, he's 10 points clear of any other Rangers defenseman this season in scoring.

It's believed that any deal for Nash would cost the Rangers somebody like Del Zotto plus perhaps a Derek Stepan, elite prospect Chris Kreider and a draft pick. Brandon Dubinsky's name has also floated around.

In return they get an upgrade to their scoring this season, assuming he'd fit in well. As Brad Richards has shown, there's no guarantee they will get the same kind of production if he moves to the Rangers. Of course he could give better production too.

But with the asking price so high, the risk seems to outweigh the reward. Do people really feel that the Rangers as presently constructed couldn't compete for the Stanley Cup? I know I don't. The risk of bringing in Nash is to lose that contender status while the reward is that they're a Stanley Cup contender. Hmm.

If I'm Slatts, I think I'd pass. If it ain't broke ...

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Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: February 26, 2012 1:21 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

I totally disagree. I think Nash is too rich and a potential bust in NY. This is not a superstar we are tallking about here - merely a very  good player. THis is not a healthy Sid Crosby or Malkin; or even a John Taveras.
Kreiter should be untouchable.
If they want Erickson and Dubie and a pick - I could live with it although I still think that would be a mistake too.
Trading Kreiter, however, would be like trading Middleton; or trading Leetch as a 20 year old college pl;ayer. It would be unforgivable.
The Rangers are here now because they finally stopped doing these sorts of stupid trades.
No reason to change now when they are so close.
My guess is the Kings passed on Nash as too expensive.
The Rangers should do the same.

Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: February 25, 2012 12:28 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

better we keep dubie and his 6 goals and 4.2 mil cap hit???  you put nash on a team with good players he will be a super star!!! hes a star now playing with nothing but garbage around him!!!!  kreider also has a chance to be a major bust, thats why they are called prospects!!!!! if columbus takes a dubie, erixon, kreider and a 1st for nash i make this trade in a heartbeat!!!!! 

Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: February 25, 2012 6:37 am

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

There is no way he Rangers would trade McDonough for Nash. To the guy who thinks they would drive him to the airport, watch the kid play his 27 minutes a night against the other teams top line. Watch how he skates and the progress he's made offensively. The kid is a future Norris Trophy winner, I think those are real hard to find. Nash is a great player,but this kids doing it in NY already, Nash would have so much pressure on hm he'd be the latest in a long long line of big names who could never live up to expectations. I'd love to have him, but not for a player I'm watching turn into an elite two way backliner. Rangers have a ton of young talented defenseman, I'm sure one named Tim Erixon playing in Hartford right now would be a top four on the Blue Jackets right now. Package him and kreider, who people call a future Nash along with Dubinsky and then everyone can drive each other to the airport

Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: February 24, 2012 7:36 am

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Giving up Kreider; never mind Del Zotto; is idiotic. Both of them have a chance to be real superstars.
PLus they are affordable and will continue to be for some time until free agency looms.
Nash is very good but not great and would immediately be the Rangers highest paid player; squeezing their cap room for years to come.
Instead of trading Kreider; bring him up after the college season ends like they did with Brian leetch long ago.
If Columbus will do it for Dubinsky and a #2 then maybe (altho I still think Nash too expensive in a salary cap system)  - but leave Del Zotto and Kreider alone. Remember Rick Middleton for Ken Hodge!~

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: February 23, 2012 10:11 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Okay, this is my last comment on the matter:  I'm not all that confident that the present day Rangers can get out of the first round; the've been playing playoff style hockey all season but everybody ratchets up a notch and all play playoff hockey.  If the Ranger scoring dries up like it is want to do on occasion, there is no time to regroup or fix the problem; you get beat.  If y'all are happy with just making the playoffs, then by all means stand pat, but I'll be around so you don't forget the error of your ways!


Since: Oct 18, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 9:28 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Ballbuster, I agree with you 100%.  The Rangers are rich in the farm and have a very bright outlook.  Sure they've needed a little help with experienced leaders, but finally things have come around.  Sather didn't completely destroy the team only because of the salary cap.

I sure hope the Blueshirt brass (Sather especially) don't fudge things up with boneheaded moves.  How many high priced players have come and gone?  Alot.  Gone are the days of getting true talent from FA like Messier, Gravy and Buek.  I've been very hard on Torts since he signed a big money coaching contract, but he has proven what he can do with the right players.  Time for Darth sather to back out gracefully on this potential trade and let some other team have at it.  I will stick to my thinking that if it happens it will cause more harm than good.

Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 3:20 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Do the  Rangers have a farm system?  You are kidding, right! Look at their roster and you will see that over 75%  of their team now came through their system and they have plenty of talent  waiting to come up..The best thing that happened  to the Rangers was the salary cap because it protects them  from themselves from signing every big name out there and letting the kids go!

Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: February 23, 2012 3:18 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Dumb move if the Rangers make that trade at this time. They have great chemistry as a team and should go as far as the conference finals. I always say, don't fix what ain't broken. For once they have a good thing going for them.

Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:45 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

Here's my question about Nash going to the Rangers.  How can they afford him?  They signed Gaborik a couple years ago, then signed another high priced FA in Richards last year.  Then they have Callahan and Lundquist who make the dough.  I'm not a Rangers fan so I don't know the ins and outs of their lineup.  But now they're looking to add almost another 7 mil per year to their cap?   Who would they give up?  Does NYR even have a farm system, and if they do, do they have any super valuable prospects?  Doubt it.  Certainly not anybody worth giving up Nash for.  If I'm Columbus, I hang on to Nash and continue to grow around.  My opinion...Nash is staying put.  After all it's only speculation he's on the Market.  It never came out official the Jackets were looking to deal him.  Like anything...the media and bloggers have blown it out of proportion.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:04 pm

Nash Dash: How would Nash fit with Rangers?

i wouldnt trade Mcdonough straight up for Nash

Believe me, neither would Columbus.  By the way, hypothetically speaking if the Rangers had the chance to trade McDonough one on one for Nash they wouldn't even pretend to think about it for even a split second.  They would pack his bags for him.  Not because McDonough isn't good because he is good... and he's very young too.  But one on one for Nash?  Give me a break...

if they can get away with dealing Dubinsky, Kreider, another top prospect and a number one go for it

It's ok to want Nash, and I understand you don't want to overpay to get him.  I've already said I don't even want the Wings to go after Nash because they would have to overpay huge to acquire him.  But let's stop talking crap and be honest with each other.  Regardless of what we think should happen, we both know Columbus is going to get a very nice package for Nash if and when they trade him. A package that's a little better then what you just suggested you'd be willing to trade. 


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